From healing other women to healing herself

Q & A | published in Real Change on May. 15th, 2013
Interview with: Eve Ensler

Tony-winning playwright Eve Ensler went to the Congo to help women whose bodies were ravaged by sexual violence. Then a cancer diagnosis led Ensler to reconnect with her own body — and the world


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Situated in the heart of sub-Saharan Africa, the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) is a country that’s green and red at the same time. The equatorial climate allows palm trees to flourish and provides lush habitat for the world’s only wild population of bonobos, primates that are some of humanity’s closest evolutionary relatives. The soil contains untapped raw minerals estimated to be worth more than $25 trillion, making it a country that, along with having some of the world’s poorest people, possesses some of the globe’s most valuable mineral resources.

The DRC is also the focal point for what’s known as the African World War, a conflict involving nine African nations that began in 1998. Violence and disease stemming from that conflict have resulted in the deaths of more than 5 million people. The Journal of the American Medical Association reported in 2010 that 40 percent of women in the eastern Congo have experienced rape, sexual violence or both. The UN says it’s the highest percentage in the world.

On one level, such troubling statistics motivated Tony-winning playwright Eve Ensler to go there. Known for her seminal work “The Vagina Monologues,” Ensler travelled to the war-ravaged country because, as she told the New York Times in February 2011, she wanted to help “build an army of women.” Not that she planned to arm them with rifles and bullets.

Instead, she helped Congolese women build a center where they could gain skills they could use to become leaders in their communities. The center is called City of Joy.

While the completion of the center filled Ensler with joy, her time assisting women in DRC coincided with a personal crisis: She was diagnosed with uterine cancer.

She underwent months of treatment in the United States, including a nine-hour surgery in which surgeons removed numerous organs, including her uterus, ovaries, cervix and part of her vagina.

She balances the events in DRC with the illness in her body in her newest book “In the Body of the World: A Memoir” (Metropolitan, $25). It’s a mesmerizing story. Ensler tells it in a voice that’s both sharp and soothing. She writes openly about how cancer affected her own body, including her ileostomy, a surgery that brings part of the small intestine outside of the skin’s surface in order to collect intestinal waste in a bag.

Ensler will be in town on May 18 for “An Evening with Eve Ensler,” presented by Northwest Associated Arts, Planned Parenthood and The Stranger. She’ll talk about the book, her commitment to stop violence against women and her own cancer. A couple of weeks ago, we chatted by phone, and she talked about what led her to DRC, her time working at a homeless shelter and how we can end the violence in the world.

What caused you to go the Democratic Republic of the Congo?

I went about seven years ago at the request of Dr. Denis Mukwege, who is the director of the Panzi Hospital and is a doctor and a surgeon and an OB/GYN, who has been working in the middle of the war for the last 14 years, sewing up women as fast as the militias are ripping them apart. I had interviewed him at the behest of the UN and was completely overwhelmed by his nobility and devotion and brilliance. And he asked if I would come to help with their efforts. So that’s what [took] me there.


Your book is called “In the Body of the World,” and it draws up a lot of ideas. One is about landscape. So how would describe the Congo?

Well, I would say the Congo, particularly Eastern Congo and [the Congolese city] Bukavu, is one of the most beautiful places I’ve ever been. It’s some of the most fertile, green, gorgeous land, and Lake Kivu is this stunning body of water, which can be kind of sea blue or sky blue, or it can turn black, depending upon the day. A friend of mine once said, “It’s hell in paradise.” Earth and birds and fruit and mangoes and avocadoes and bananas: life. And then this incredible violence being enacted both on the landscape and on the minds and on the bodies of people, particularly the women.


Here’s where questions get difficult. How did you see that violence manifest in and on the women there?

Because we’ve now built this amazing place with them called City of Joy, I’ve heard many, many stories of women who have been violated in the most atrocious ways I’ve ever heard, during this 13-year-old war over minerals of the Congo. Over minerals [and mineral ores] like coltan — which go into our cellphones and our PlayStations and computers — and copper and gold, which get pillaged by the West and China and the world. Those minerals are taken [when] militias go into the villages where the mines are, and they rape the women and have fathers rape their daughters and sons rape their mothers, and everyone be raped, in general. They destroy the families, they’re fractured. And the families flee, and the militias move in, and they take over the mines with the multinational corporations.

So we’re seeing the coming together of the worst forces of the world — this capitalist greed and sexism and racism and colonialism — which is destroying the indigenous Congolese. I think that’s the landscape: You see this beautiful world and country and earth, and then you see that the majority of the people can’t even live in the bush anymore, the forest, because the forest has become the most dangerous. So Bukavu: It used to have 50,000 people, and now there’s a million people. And no jobs and no work and no structures and no streets and police and no law and no water and no electricity. Everyone’s there just because they’re terrified to live in the bush where all the raping and murders occur.

What I’m interested in is how many of us — and I think it’s men and women — leave our bodies, based upon trauma and pain. For me, I’ve tried so many ways to get back in: whether it was, at a young age, drugs or promiscuous sex and then eating disorders and then performance art. And then, eventually, “The Vagina Monologues” and talking to as many women as I could about their bodies and discovering why this worldwide epidemic of violence is at the root of why so many people have left their bodies. The Congo was the further extension and the most extreme manifestation of that violence. And then getting cancer, which was the thing that, oddly and ironically, landed me smack in my body. I just became body.

So that’s really what I’m interested in now: how we get back into our bodies, which is the connective pathway to our connection to the earth, to each other, to everything that matters. I think this global disassociation, this global bifurcation, is what is at the root of allowing so much to continue, whether it’s insane poverty or economic injustice or racial injustice or climate change. We’re not feeling what’s going on. And I think the question is: How do we get back into our bodies so we feel it?


Could you talk about how you discovered that you had cancer and the journey that that took you on?

Well, what I talk about in the book, in the chapter called “Somnolence,” is that there were signs about my cancer long before I ever did anything about it. I’ve talked to so many people who have had cancer or sicknesses, and they see things are wrong, and they don’t do anything. In the same way we understand that climate change is happening, and we’re not doing anything.And the same way we see that people are starving all around us, and we’re not doing anything. I think the signs got [to be] too much: There was blood coming from my body, and it was like I had to deal with it. And by then it was late, really late. I had a huge tumor about the size of a mango inside me. So I think it was profoundly shocking and yet that feeling when you know something’s wrong, so it’s not completely shocking. It’s like when someone just rips off the veil of denial.


You write and talk so honestly about it. How difficult was it to tell your truth about your illness?

Well, I think when you get cancer, it’s a process of coming to terms with what’s happening. I think your brain just can’t believe it. The minute someone says to you, “You have cancer,” it’s like someone has just said, “You’re dead.” And then you have to begin to gather the forces. I had just never read a book where anyone had told me really what it was like to have cancer, and I wanted that book. I wanted someone telling me what it was like to have [ileostomy] bags and what it was like to lose control or what it was like to have an infection where you became the Gulf of Mexico. That was the book I needed, so I guess that was the book I wrote.

So much of what happened to me was coming into my body, into the body of the world. So when I had [an] infection, it was happening simultaneously with the Gulf [oil] spill, and literally there were days where I felt like I had oil in me and pelicans dying in me. It was both horrifying and amazing to just begin to see the metaphor and see the connective tissue that runs through one’s body into the world.


Is there a way for other people to connect deeper into the body of the world without having an illness?

I hope so, and that’s what the book is saying — right? — where we don’t need to get to a point where we destroy the earth before we appreciate it or have our bodies die before we honor them. I think there are many pathways into your body and many pathways into connection. A lot of it has to do with being awake here and being willing to come out of the somnolence. Hopefully the death of my somnolence will help other people to wake up. That would be the idea.


There’s a person in this book: Dr. Handsome. You mentioned that it only takes one sentence from a doctor to give patients dignity. Could you expound upon that?

In the course of my treatment, I had really good care and not good care. And really good care has to do with the doctor or the nurses or whoever actually seeing you as a human being. So often people just get into kind of doing their job and doing it effectively and looking at your body as if it were an objective thing. For me, that moment with that doctor was such a profound moment, because I was in a state of utter humiliation, utter terror, utter nausea, lying on this table, not knowing where the cancer was, knowing I had this tumor inside my body, inside my colon: inside me. I was just utterly crushed. And in walks this gorgeous doctor, and I think, OK, this could be the end of the world. His walking around that table and acknowledging me and acknowledging my work and acknowledging my being: Everything changed for me. It all felt like I could handle it, and I could go through it because he had made a connection with my heart. He had connected me with his heart. It wasn’t this cold medical process: It was this journey we were going to go on together.  I think that makes all the difference.


At one point in the book, you mention you were a group leader in a homeless shelter. What do you recall of some of the trauma the women experienced?

I worked in a homeless shelter for around eight years, and it was a profound time of my life. For me, many things stand out. One is how many women I met who had been violated or suffered insane violence, which was a huge reason that their trajectory had gone downward. But there was also the incredible unwillingness of people who were outside the homeless community, to understand that [homeless people] were on a continuum of poverty and exile through an economic system that is progressively making more and more people poor. And it was fascinating to me how people distanced themselves from homeless people, because some [people who aren’t homeless] know it’s a slippery slope, because there is no real system of economic justice or containment, so any of us can fall off at any moment. So people don’t want to be near homeless people because they feel they’ll catch it. That was what I was struck with over and over and over: how homeless people become contaminated and isolated and a thing, rather than just someone who lost their home and don’t have money, for whatever reason. Whether it be economic investment or losing work or a tragedy. It taught me a lot about this whole capitalist structure and how easy it is for people to lose their way.


How is City of Joy doing?

Wonderfully. I was just there for the month of February, and it is glorious. The bougainvillea is thick, and the roses are higher than me, and the women are unbelievable. They’re just miracles. They come, and they’re destroyed; they have nightmares and diseases, and they have dread, they have despair. And they become the most beautiful, empowered, inspired, joyous beings who are off to lift up the communities. I don’t know. I don’t think I’ve ever been as proud or inspired by anything.


How’s your health now?

Today I have three years clean [of cancer], and I’m alive. And every day that I’m alive is a gift. A huge gift. It’s absurd that I’m alive, and I get it, and I get that I have the privilege of having health insurance, which afforded me treatments and medical care that 99 percent of the planet aren’t afforded. So I try to do as much as I can every day in service as my debt of gratitude.


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